when is this going to stop, the constant arguing, bikering back and forth, \i have read both sides, the bible also talks about stupid arguements. just discern. ask God how to answer, i am learning not to critize, call a spade a spade but don't through the baby out with the bath water, just speak the truth in love, hmmm yes that is a challenge, the truth is offensive enough without having to argue about stupid things, Todd may just be a pawn in the scheme of things, pray for him, he does have a soul after all, keep your eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher, we are only a mist that can vaporize in a second, a flower that whithers and dies, maybe someone should just have a chat with Todd,,,, hmmm, rather than slam him on the internet. This is how we know we are of God, that we love our brother.... hmm How can we say we love God who we can't see when we don't love our brother that we can see, oh my, lots of things the scripture says, those are the scriptures he is having me read and I ask for his mercy and his compassion and love to flow through me, because I am nothing with out Him, I cannot love as he does, he does that through me, so then others will SEE HIM as turn to Jesus, we are talking about eternity after all, do you know how long you will live here on earth? I think not.